2019, the worst year for new personal tech since... 2018

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  1. AveSharia

    AveSharia Scribbler - Standard Member

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    Well, let me put it this way... I was a long-time Windows Phone owner. Nobody forced me to own them, but it sure did feel like punishment sometimes.
     
  2. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Just to touch upon something of interest to both you and I, which is the subject of the slate PC (the true tablets of tablets for us old-timers ;)).

    Have you noticed the sudden rise-and-fall of the detachable form factor?

    After the SP3/4 gained popularity, many OEMs tried their hands at creating productivity slates: Lenovo, VAIO, Asus, and finally HP with the ZBook X2...and everyone of those product lines seems to have met an early demise.

    In the recent years, OEMs appear to have reverted 2-in-1s back to the laptop form-factor (ie. "yoga"-style or no convertible at all, but supporting pen on screen like the Zenbook Duo). This bodes ill for two reasons: 1) the form factors are usually 16:9 and awkward for tablet use, and 2) more importantly, it relegates touch—and especially pen—to afterthoughts in terms of human UX.

    Do a little doodle here, sign a document there...look you can scroll with the pen too! :p

    I can't help but feel this is infantile view of tablet PC productivity that has set in and been validated by MS' direction with Windows, thus ending hardware interest in the slate form-factor.

    (And after so much potential was ignited by the Surface Pro, Book, and Studio years ago...tears...)
     
  3. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    iPad is still a "slate.":p
     
  4. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Bootcamp for iPadOS, aka iWin...

    Yes ladies and gentlemen - why not? With iPadOS on ARM and Windows on ARM, why wouldn't Apple consider a Bootcamp solution to let tablet users have those Windows applications they can't do without, but back to iPadOS with a restart...

    and I claim the name iWin - just imagine the "cat ate the canary" look on Timmy's face when he announces that one...

    Seriously, it would be a multi-level Win for Apple selling even more tablets to folks like Jeff!

    Oops, well maybe not on the iWin nae - gaming site
     
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  5. Steve S

    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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  6. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    I'm hoping MS can turn this lackluster tech year around.

    The Surface Book 3 should appear somewhere around October 2019 right? Curious what they do with that one. Did we ever start a wish list / hopes and dreams for that one? I guess not, so here it is. TB3 and eGPU would be a major draw for me.

    We are also still waiting for that heavily redesigned Surface Pro, not even sure what to wish for there. TB3 and eGPU as well I guess!

    The Surface Laptop could really use a yoga hinge, to make pen support not ridiculous.

    But first up: the Surface Go 2 with smaller bezels and Qualcomm 8cx (yes?). That one might be as little as two months away! Any other major devices in the pipeline from MS or other manufacturers?
     
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  7. Steve S

    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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  8. WhenUtry

    WhenUtry Pen Pal - Newbie

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    That's fine, I'm looking for an overpriced soap dish anyway. :p
     
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  9. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Is anyone else really bummed out that there's no sign of a Microsoft hardware event this year?

    I mean it's back-to-school/Q3, when products lines are readying for the Black Friday/holiday buying season. Normally the forums would be simmering with excitement at some tweet from Panos, rumours-a-whirl with Surface speculation.

    Surface Pro of course is looong overdue for a chassis refresh. But that horse has already been beaten comatose with the "major re-design" postponed (again) into 2020.

    The Surface Book however—arguably the device with the most potential to revolutionize the laptop/tablet market—sits bewilderingly on the sidelines, unattainable, un-affordable, and thus deemed 'impractical' as ever. MS doesn't bother to showcase its usecases through OS development, first-party UWP apps, or even making the cool concept videos they were once known for.

    MS are you hearing this? There is huge potential for a dockable tablet/laptop hybrid!

    It's one of the few areas you are still leagues ahead of the competition. Don't squander this opportunity by sitting on your laurels (incidentally, you've been sitting for nearly 4 years already).

    Show the world! Create a ARM+Core hybrid masterpiece. Make the OS adapt to docked and separated mode with a bespoke Surface tablet UX. Use WiGig to enable short-range compute acceleration and file transfer with the base. There are a myriad of technological innovations arrayed before you.

    In short—where's our Surface event—that lets us feel, dream and salivate all over the device like before?

    Nope. This year, it's calm as a millpond. Excuse me while I prepare to go drown myself in it. :(
     
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  10. JoeS

    JoeS I'm all ears Senior Member

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    Hahaha. Assuming you're joking of course :eek: The good news is, we'll definitely see some new hardware soonish. The bad news is, probably none so innovative as what you suggest. I suspect the Surface Book will remain insanely expensive with an incremental update if anything. I still hope for that semi affordable 2.5lbs Surface Yoga Laptop with TB3 support, which in my mind has the tiniest chance of happening. As for timing, the Surface Book 2 was announced on Oct 17, so that leaves only two months of agony :D
     
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