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  1. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Ran iTunes streaming Lawrence of Arabia for about 45 minutes - steady, no jitters, no thermal or processor spikes. Only when you put your cursor in the video frame did it stutter - but all Windows devices do this (if they don't overheat or slow top a crawl). Very impressive (and yes, I know iTunes for Windows is a POS - but it is a good stress test of a Windows system because of that).
     
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  2. kurt corbin

    kurt corbin Scribbler - Standard Member

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    This is the one you got? At Best Buy? Are you sure it has an anti-glare display? Because for that config Best buy says, "BrightView glossy screen maintains the vivid colors in your photos and videos. 3840 x 2160 native resolution. AMOLED backlight." AMOLED backlight? Huh?
     
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    That's a very expensive way to back-light your LCD.. Or maybe it's a 1x1 active matrix? :D
     
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    Sorry to keep being a somewhat of a taker instead of a giver:

    Am I right in that it's looking like this product is too new to get Black Friday deals? I'm not a pro-shopper. I tried a few coupons in HP's site but they aren't working. I was at Best Buy last night and unexpectedly failed to qualify for financing, so I have to either order it somewhere else or buy it all at once after a few more paychecks. I forgot to ask anything about Black Fri but since the clerk didn't volunteer anything and the prices were standard, I think I can assume the price wouldn't change as we approach the actual date... Tonight I'm going to try to buy it through HP with PayPal financing, but unfortunately it looks like they are short and it won't ship until early Dec. Perhaps the silver lining is it could increase the chances that I get one with no QA problems, as that guy on Digital Digest had an issue with the chassis popping. Some people reported trackpads that didn't feel firmly secured.

    Also, I'm getting it with the Tilt Pen first... I might even try to use my VAIO pen that I still have. If neither of those feel right then I'll pick up the Raphael 5. I'm hoping they'll act the same as on Surface. I'm slightly worried simply because that standard HP Active Pen is indeed quite terrible -- even the cursor lag was pretty bad, like pre- Z Canvas levels of bad, but I think that was all the pen and not because the laptop has some sort of old/inferior Ntrig/MPP tech in it.

    Still working out which stand to get, but I'll run it by you all. Thanks!
     
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  5. Marty

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    You might to try by phone when ordering from HP:

    Say that you've heard HP is offering Black Friday deals on new 10th gen laptops and see if the agent can provide you a discount, if you make an order early.

    In my experience, sales reps do have leeway, especially in creating new customer accounts and selling new flagship products. 5-10% discount is certainly within the realm of possibility, if it means a direct sale instead of a sale through Best Buy.

    Also check with the sales rep that holiday returns apply, with free return shipping and no 15% restocking fee will apply (as that is mentioned on HP's site).

    Lastly, if the deal offered is contingent of extra costs like a service plan, it might be wiser just to wait and keep checking forums for Black Friday deals. It's a buyer's market in November so, there's no need to jump into anything.


    PS. BB reps tend to be a lot more lenient with payment, rainchecks, etc, if you mention you're interested in their Product Replacement Plan. I've looked into it myself and depending on your usage, having an extra 2 years of warranty, plus a guarantee of an "equal or better replacement" (or refund) is actually pretty attractive, especially if you're OCD about burn-in, screen defects, etc.

    (Of course, verify the coverage and terms with the rep, as this was about a year ago when I was considering an SB2 purchase.)

    Since it's based on the value of the item (which is much lower thankfully, than something like an MSP16), it's worth checking out imo, especially if it means you can get interest-free financing. ;)
     
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    Steve S Pen Pro - Senior Member Super Moderator

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    <<...You might to try by phone when ordering from HP...In my experience, sales reps do have leeway...>>

    This is my experience, too. I always talk to a sales agent when I'm purchasing anything that's high dollar cost. On the last computer that I bought from HP, in addition to a sizeable company discount, the sales agent gave me an extra 5% "just because."

    Can't beat that!
     
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    It does not have any visible matte finish, but it is far less reflective than my ThinkPad X1 Yoga 4th gen was, or for that matter the LCD versions of the Spectre in the store. Of course AMOLED has no backlighting, but again you are talking about Worst Buy advertising, and moron sales folks that will tell you the Surface pro X is the same as the Surface Pro 7, just thinner...(go's hones truth - that's wht the squirrel told me, and set him straight in front of several other customers)....they are the epitome of the old warning about not opening your mouth and proving you are stupid.

    @neongolden - I doubt this model will get a Black Friday discount, mostly because they are knocking $500 off it's predecessor (which has a 512gb ssd, not 1tb, and is LCD - $1099). As other have said, you should try direct calling HP sales to see if you can get the discount. Unfortunately, my experience with HP direct sales has been pretty hit or miss on their top end SKU's - they protect those prices. Hope you'll be lucky, and obvious;y more charming, like @Steve S.
     
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    According to the Verge, "The high-end model built with an OLED screen features the Intel Core i7-1065G7 processor and 16GB of RAM. That model is available in two configurations, each costing $1,499: one with an anti-reflective screen and a 512GB NVMe SSD or a standard OLED screen with 1TB of NVMe SSD storage."

    If the Verge is accurate, and you have the 1TB config, are you still sure you have an anti-reflective screen? I do not trust HP. They have a history of using the term "anti-reflective" pretty much as random marketing BS to fill out a line.But why else would they sell those two models for the same price?
     
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    As I said, I have the 4k OLED with no matte surface but glare was visibly reduced compared to my 4k ThinkPad X1 Yoga and my Galaxy Book 12. For the record, it is $1699 at BB - don't know where the $1499 comes from. Not a direct comparison, but late model iPad Pro's had better anti-reflectivity than earlier ones.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. I think. I am eagerly awaiting for someone here to get the anti-reflective config and give us a report. If there is such a thing. HP lies a lot about this stuff. According to Digital Trends:

    "HP tells me that it has bundled in a new optional anti-glare option into all these new (OLED) panels."

    Huh? If it's bundled into ALL of them, why is it called an OPTION?
     
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