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Discussion in 'Hewlett Packard' started by kurt corbin, Sep 30, 2019.

  1. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's the one I was referring to. I have owned this for years. If only I could find it since I moved - 18 months ago!!!
     
  2. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    NOPE - that's 10% of the cost of my new system -

    @lovelaptops - only three days in but I am enjoying it as much as the ThinkPad X1 Yoga - bite my tongue and knock on wood...
     
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    lovelaptops My friends call me Jeff Senior Member

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    @lovelaptops - only three days in but I am enjoying it as much as the ThinkPad X1 Yoga - bite my tongue and knock on wood...[/QUOTE]

    That's what I was hoping to hear - and afraid of hearing!
     
  4. Marty

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    On the topic of factory calibration, did HP mention if they were planning on producing "Dreamcolor" versions of these OLED panels, perhaps on something like a refreshed ZBook X2?

    One of the things that surprised me about the end-user experience of the Z Canvas, was the superb out-of-box calibration made so much nicer to use over the long term. I often find myself using it as a reference display for calibrating other monitors.

    Graphics control panel sliders are kludgy tools compared to a dedicated LUT programming at the factory. Whereas with other panels, I often find myself second-guessing the display accuracy, a good OOB calibration means only minor adjustments are necessary over the life of the device and I don't have to worry about my settings getting overridden by things like driver updates/OS refreshes etc.

    Overall, I would say the value add of Dreamcolor and equivalent panel certification is immeasurable. I would 100% pay the premium for it, even with dedicated calibration tools.
     
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    neongolden Scribbler - Standard Member

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    I'm so, so close to getting this... I want to actually get it from Best Buy, as they have a no-interest 18-month financing deal going on right now for the holiday season. I was even going to pay an extra $200-ish for 2-year Geek Squad protection.

    I was debating either the Raphael 5 or the HP Tilt Pen... I hear the Tilt Pen is top tier Ntrig along with the Raphael 5 and latest Surface Pens, though there still aren't a lot of reviews to go by or any YT vids to my knowledge.

    I would literally find someone in Austin to do me a favor and calibrate the screen for me, or pay them if it comes down to it. I'll ask around online and visit computer/photography stores.

    Can any of you use some powers of divination on the Zbook X2? Because this device truly looks to me like it is as good as it gets for late 2019. I'll go one or two more days but I'm legit asking anyone to stop me if they feel strongly about it (lol).

    When I think about using this Spectre in tablet mode, with a Tabmate, sitting on a nice portable stand with fixed positions that would also fit into my backpack, calibrated and with the right screen protector, I have to try not to think about it for the sake of my health LOL.
     
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    desertlap Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    Definitely in the rumor category, but we've heard about an Elite Book that will compete with the MacBook Pro 16 coming mid 2020. Marquee feature will be first laptop display with 100% support for Adobe Wide Gamut RGB. Possibly a custom Samsung QLED screen as OLED hasn't reached that range of gamut yet.

    I'm not too excited yet as I hear the base price will be north of $5k...

    PS: Not sure how that will actually work since a percentage ( 8%) of that color space are imaginary colors...
     
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    desertlap Scribbler - Standard Member Senior Member

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    @neongolden I'd check with a local photography club, possibly through the local library. That's how I first started myself and the folks were happy to help me. It was only when I was doing it often enough that I felt like I was annoying them, that I bit the bullet and bought one of my own.

    also BTW: another reason to get a calibration tool is that all displays drift over time and a battery powered one is about 3 time worse in that regard
     
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  8. Marty

    Marty Pen Pro - Senior Member Senior Member

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    Yowza! :vbeek: That's base price for a Elitebook!? Come again....

    Do the HP engineers have no love for the ZBook X2? Wasn't that their baby for 2-3 years of totally custom R&D?

    I mean there's so much potential there: they could go slim-bezel and put the 15.6" OLED in the same footprint, or knock off the bezels entirely and do 13.3" OLED in an ultra-portable footprint, like this new Spectre.

    Both those with EMR and Dreamcolor-certified would be an artist's dream.
     
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  9. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    Starting day 4, no problems so far. Core Temp is showing a max of 72-78C on the four Cores, even when folded into tablet mode so I can take notes at my desk.

    Totally unrelated, but great news to me (and I think all serious note takers) - OneNote 2016 has been resurrected by Microsoft; will be upgraded with all the new features in the UWP version, and has extended life through 2025!

    https://www.onmsft.com/news/microso...new-features-and-extended-support-though-2025
     
  10. dstrauss

    dstrauss Comic Relief Senior Member

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    I know it is only day 4, but the late 2019 X360 13 is a great device at a good value. Here's what I mean:
    • $1699 gets you i7-1065G7 Ice Lake with Iris Plus Graphics; 4k OLED; 16gb ram; 1tb SSD; mSDXC reader; two USB-C TB3; 1 USB-A; touch and pen in box
    • x360 vs Dell XPS 7390: for $1749 the Dell - no OLED (UHD 16:10 LCD); 8gb ram; 256gb SSD; no USB-A; little narrower but deeper - same weight; pen $30-extra (not bad); no mSDXC reader - you want 16gb ram (sorry, can only order 32gb at this level) and 1tb ssd another $900
    • x360 vs Lenovo Yoga C940: for $1755 from Lenovo - no OLED but 13.9" 4k, no mSDXC reader; pretty close!
    • x360 vs Apple MacBook Pro 13: for $1799 from Apple - Retina display; Core i5 with Iris Plus Graphics 655; 8gb ram; 256gb ssd; 4 USB-C/TB3 but no USB-A nor mSDXC reader; no touch or pen (no duh) you want 16gb ram and 1tb ssd another $650
    • x360 vs Surface Pro 7: for $1759 from MS: i7 10th gen; no OLED but 2K+; 16gb ram; 256gb ssd; keyboard and pen included; the only true tablet in this field - but here's where it gets tricky - you want 1tb - that's another $540
     
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