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02-04-2011, 08:01 AM #31
Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
Hopefully the Intel chip issues involved in the announced recall will not effect the T901 units at the start of production. I am not sure if the issues affected the mobile Sandy Bridge units or if it was completely contained in the desktop versions. You may want to do some research before pulling the trigger...
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Dan
Doing the device shuffle again:
Fujitsu Q702 i5 on order
Fujitsu Stylistic Q550 - has become my main mobility device
HP TC1100 - Win 8 - my old faithful - evaluating Win 8 Professional
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02-04-2011, 08:35 AM #32Scribbler - Standard Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
thanks for the info, i didn't even know about the problem
unfortunately, the problem also affects the mobile version of Sandy Bridge
according to this source (sorry its german) the delivery of products based on Sandy Bridge - especially notebooks - will be delayed
the source is also mentioning that the planned launch date of 20. February for Sandy Bridge notebook platforms(which would be consistent with my information of T901 production start at the end of February) probably can't be met
In sum, the good thing is that Fujitsu probably won't launch a faulty product. The bad thing is that the launch of the T901 will probably be delayed.
man, i really need a new tablet...
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02-04-2011, 09:46 AM #33Scribbler - Standard Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T901: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
Yeah, even HP delayed the announcement of new SB-based business notebooks (hopefully, the successor to the 2740p is in there somewhere) because of the faulty chipset.
Given the fact that these chips have been shipping to manufacturers since December of last year, it will probably take some time for all the replacements to happen. We're probably looking at June or even September for the supply of new SB notebooks to stabilize. By then, Intel would have announced the new Ivy Bridge platform.
What an untimely mess for Intel and it's partners.
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02-04-2011, 11:09 AM #34Scribbler - Standard Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T901: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
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02-05-2011, 08:56 AM #35Scribbler - Standard Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
did that german site say anything about possible nvidia graphics?
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02-05-2011, 10:54 AM #36Pen Pro - Senior Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
No mention of Nvidia on that site...and the data sheet from Fujitsu also says nothing about it, even though it lists all the diverse other options such as different processors...so probably the rumour about Nvidia is wrong... (sniff)
https://globalsp.ts.fujitsu.com/dmsp...ebook-t901.pdf
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02-06-2011, 02:02 PM #37Pen Pro - Senior Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
On the other hand, the Fujitsu rep in a video said that the model demonstrated was just a prototype, and they'll probably be offering it as an option with the final version.
I can only hope, anyway...there's no reason for any PC exceeding US$1,000 to NOT have dedicated graphics. Not that I'll have any chance of affording the T901 on release, but high-end hardware like that does become significantly more affordable after a few years thanks to depreciation...
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02-06-2011, 03:27 PM #38
Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
I'd like to agree with you but history doesn't bear this out, at least not for Tablet PCs where almost all of them cost more than $1000 and almost all of them lack dedicated graphics.
This T901 having nVidia graphics has felt like a misquote/misunderstanding to me all along.
My theory is that they were trying to say that the integrated graphics in the new Sandy Bridge chips is/should-be comparable to an nVidia GPU.
I think the rep either understood it wrong, said it wrong, or both.
EDIT: But just so we're on the same page, I'd honestly really like to see dedicated graphics on the T901. I think it'd put a little pressure on the manufacturers of other high-end Tablet PCs to start including them as well and then we'd be able to bring in yet more users to the world of Tablet PCs and in the end that's good for all of us.Last edited by Krelian; 02-06-2011 at 04:03 PM.
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02-07-2011, 06:39 AM #39Scribbler - Standard Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
I'm not so sure that dedicated graphics are that necessary or useful in a (business) tablet - you don't really need it for CAT, as the screen is too small/too low resolution and gamers are not really the target group
and for everything else you don't really need dedicated graphics imo
are you referring to the video from CES 2011? the rep never says anything about optimus, its just the interviewer who speaks about it
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02-07-2011, 07:52 AM #40Pen Pro - Senior Member
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Re: Fujitsu's new T90: THE most powerful TabletPC, bar none
I've known for the longest time...do Wacom and N-trig really charge that much for their digitizers, and BOE Hydis their LCDs? Those are the only things I can possibly think of that even come close to justifying the high prices. It just seems absurd that for the price of one of these systems, you can get a standard laptop with a decent MXM graphics card. Too bad you can't write and draw on it.
And then we have the HP tm2, which has both Wacom AND dedicated graphics (weak sauce dedicated graphics, but still faster than the GMA HD in the Westmere i3/i5 ULV)-just missing that AFFS+ LCD all the business-class Tablet PCs have. I get the feeling that it's not that they can't put dedicated graphics in these high-end Tablet PCs, but that they just don't want to.
I doubt the GMA HD in the Sandy Bridge i5/i7 will be comparable to mid-range NVIDIA, though. Low-end? Probably, but I'd expect no less than mid-range for a system that expensive, albeit not too high-end for heat and power consumption reasons.
I have a bit of a conundrum here; I don't like working with paper, so Tablet PCs appeal to me there. But I'm also an avid gamer, with a desktop built primarily for that purpose. If I happen to get in the business of making those games, wouldn't it be nice to run them on the same machine that does all the texture work and such that might be done on a Wacom Penabled system?
Unfortunately, it seems like we're still a ways off from seeing StreamMyGame get replaced with something that works reliably for once. One of these days, it won't matter how powerful my Tablet PC is as long as I can get a connection to my desktop at home without too much latency...
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