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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamison Cush View Post
    Just to pile on -- the notebook comparison doesn't work for me either. If I have an older machine, I may not be able to run Adobe CS 6, but I can easily track down a copy of CS 4 and basically accomplish the same tasks.
    But this is a different argument. If you want to argue that Apple should allow more control over what versions of apps you use on the devices or that the older versions of apps should still be available, then fine, I'll go with that. But Adobe doesn't do that with Photoshop. If I wanted to buy Photoshop 7 I could probably track it down but not from Adobe. So again, if you want to argue that Apple should allow side loading of apps and allow more control over what apps you use then I can go with that. But it's a different conversation.

    The conversation here is whether the original iPad is obsolete. Like I said, we still use ours every day and I'm guessing millions of other people do too which by definition means it is not obsolete.

    Also, if I wanted to get ride of my iPad I could sell it fright now at Amazon for $230. I could probably get more on eBay or Craigslist. If it was obsolete, that wouldn't be the case.

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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCundrgrnd View Post
    If such GREAT minds were truly thinking about a product, make it RIGHT, make it AWESOME the first time. Maybe a 2.0 revision now and then.
    Like all companies, Apple is making the best products it can at the time it is making them. These have to sell at pre-selected price points. This means the company can't put in everything it can think of, ignoring the price.

    There's no way Apple could make a device today with the same features the iPad 5 will have, and also sell it at $500. As time goes by, technology gets better (and smaller) while prices go down.

    This is true of every company. Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. make dozens of new laptops every year, virtually all of them mildly updated versions of their predecessors. Would anyone argue that each of these companies should just make one ULTIMATE laptop and leave it at that?
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    It's not about making an ultimate device with NO improvements ever. But it IS about calling a device the ULTIMATE and then adding a SIMPLE feature that should have been included in the first place. (i.e. cut and paste, camera, etc.) Adding a camera...should have been included from day one. Retina Display...that is a upgrade worthy improvement NOT adding cut/paste.

    I realize as time passes, the size of good tech decreases and the power of said tech increases. I get that. But the issue I take with Apple is the egotistical ads stating they have MADE the best possible TODAY. But wait 10-12 months and low and behold they have made it "AGAIN". Really?

    The part that concerns me is the extreme waste. I upgrade my desktop in spurts. Part here/part there. To keep it mostly modern NOT entirely current though. There is a difference. The main "issues" I find with Apple's throwaway products are the effect to the environment and the consumer.

    YES they can style the heck out of something and make it LOOK like you must own it. But notice something interesting. Even though the design esthetic is present in its entire product lines, there is NO mass conversion to MAC based PC's. Why...because the price point for the name vs. same parts in a WinTel box just can't compete.

    The point being as iDevices are smaller/cheaper items more accessible to the public so thy DO sell. I don't knock any company for marketing a product. I would knock ANY company that claims to have created the PANULTIMATE whatever and next year...and now we made it thinner/added camera/added delete/etc. That is disgusting IMO.

    I guess I would say my problem is HOW Apple markets (and that all the throwaway e-waste is SO bad.) They can upgrade whatever they like. But calling it the best for TODAY. Then wait for it...several months and we added a dedicated camera button. WTF?! LOL
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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    More to the question about being obsolete...

    In my ideal "tech" world...things like tablets would be built with certain upgrades in mind. i.e. Camera module can be replaced. Maybe even the processor. I realize a screen is not a simple swappable part. But memory, cpu/gpu, battery, camera, 3G/4G radio, etc are all items people could buy to upgrade. Clearly it works as laptops are upgraded all the time, albeit in a limited range. But they should be changed too. (i.e. CPU's)

    Imagine an iPad with a back that COULD be removed, stay with a tool you buy from Apple(nod to their constant need for finding coins). And you could add 3G/4G, more RAM, etc.

    Now that is the ULTIMATE tablet with a REAL usable product life span!

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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    I have a first gen iPad 16GB WiFi model and I still use it every day. I also now have a new iPad (latest gen) and havenít used it much at all save to quickly check it was without defect. The reason for this in part is that I hadnít ordered a protective case and screen protector for the new unit and wanted to be cautious. Also the first gen iPad really does everything I want and it does it well.

    Obsolete, no I donít think so.

    Iíll likely sell my first gen iPad via Amazonís buyback program at about ~$230. I think it retained its value fairly well over the years.

    Iíll also point out that the first gen iPad was going to receive a front facing camera at the very least. You can see the opening reserved for the camera. So I donít necessarily believe that Apple deliberately leaves features out to foster sales of future versions. In the case of the first gen camera there likely was a technical reason behind the omission. Something that made them stop midway,Ö.

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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    My iPad is a first generation model, and so far, everything seems to be working fine. That makes it not obsolete to me! :-)
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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    I have the first version of the iPad. Recently it would not download updates for iBooks, Pages, Bible and one other app.

    Guy at Apple Store said original iPad could not have new operating system and thus could not download and use these updates.

    OK, but I cannot open the old version of these apps, and I have books on iBooks I want to read and documents on Pages I want to use. How can I do that?

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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by oldiPadbuyer View Post
    I have the first version of the iPad. Recently it would not download updates for iBooks, Pages, Bible and one other app.

    Guy at Apple Store said original iPad could not have new operating system and thus could not download and use these updates.

    OK, but I cannot open the old version of these apps, and I have books on iBooks I want to read and documents on Pages I want to use. How can I do that?
    a jail break ipad?...
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    try delete ibook app and re-install...
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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    In my opinion, the most prominent downside of OG iPad is its game and app compatibility. I mean, if you own an old-gen iPad, iPad 1 or 2 maybe, you'll likely find some problems to run some next-gen apps or games.

    I know - even the latest-gen games like GTA San Andreas doesn't run so smoothly on iPad mini 2 with Retina, while some users reporting that this game can be played smoothly on iPad mini 1 (maybe it has optimization issue with the developer or maybe it's has something to do with the highest-resolution screen on the latest iPad mini 2).

    But given that the current-gen iDevices have much higher hardware (like 1GB of RAM, powerful PowerVR G6430 and 64-bit A7) and the next-gen games will deploy some advanced sophisticated graphics and visual effects (with Unreal 4 maybe), then it will be harder for OG iPad to be capable to handle next-gen games.
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    Default Re: Are the Old Apple iPads Really Obsolete? Discussion

    We have published a feature article on this topic by Jen Edwards:

    Four Years On, Apple's First iPad Still Useful
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